I have heard men talk about other men in this way as well. However, it's different. When men talk about women, it's shaming them. Its not because they are worried about it. Men are also afraid that their wives might end up like that. When men talk about men, it's usually because there is some deep-seated fear that they might end up like that as well. Shame is the foundation of their speech about women. fear is the foundation of what they say about men. It's not the same.